Can excluding Male or Female also exclude related tags?

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I'm having an excruciating time trying to filter out one or the other for what I'm in the mood for. My last day had 9 terms excluding every combination of tags including females and most posts I saw were full of females.

I get there is Male_only and Female_only but the issue is the lack of posts using it meaning of I specifically search either that's a LOT of content being overlooked.

So why doesn't adding -Male or -Female exclude ALL related tags to either one, leaving ahh the other ones for the non-excluded sex?

RubyRedRaccoon said:

I'm having an excruciating time trying to filter out one or the other for what I'm in the mood for. My last day had 9 terms excluding every combination of tags including females and most posts I saw were full of females.

I get there is Male_only and Female_only but the issue is the lack of posts using it meaning of I specifically search either that's a LOT of content being overlooked.

So why doesn't adding -Male or -Female exclude ALL related tags to either one, leaving ahh the other ones for the non-excluded sex?

the female tag isnt used here as much as 1girl. try -1girl -2girls etc instead. @RubyRedRaccoon

DontTouchMyCogs said:

the female tag isnt used here as much as 1girl. try -1girl -2girls etc instead. @RubyRedRaccoon

That's the point, -female should be a catch-all that excludes all female related tags, same for -Male

Having to account for every iteration of that doesn't work well when my searchbar looks like:

-1girl -2girls -3girls -yuri -straight_shota -female -multiple_girls

And after all that, still seeing mostly posts with girls in them. That's a lack of a quality of life feature most imageboards have and makes tagging more obtuse than it needs to be by having so many variations slip through someone's search trying to exclude very broad terms.

Honestly, the female tag shouldn't be used at all. Between the lax enforcement of proper metadata and the deadbeat owner, this imageboard is pretty 3rd world. You're not going to find any quality of life features here.

RubyRedRaccoon said:

That's the point, -female should be a catch-all that excludes all female related tags, same for -Male

Having to account for every iteration of that doesn't work well when my searchbar looks like:

-1girl -2girls -3girls -yuri -straight_shota -female -multiple_girls

And after all that, still seeing mostly posts with girls in them. That's a lack of a quality of life feature most imageboards have and makes tagging more obtuse than it needs to be by having so many variations slip through someone's search trying to exclude very broad terms.

@RubyRedRaccoon i know the tagging isnt the best but even places like e621 where tagging is way better if you throw a tag away unwanted results still show

DontTouchMyCogs said:

@RubyRedRaccoon i know the tagging isnt the best but even places like e621 where tagging is way better if you throw a tag away unwanted results still show

DontTouchMyCogs said:

@RubyRedRaccoon i know the tagging isnt the best but even places like e621 where tagging is way better if you throw a tag away unwanted results still show

Go to e621, search for -female, -herm and -andromorph and tell me how many vaginas and feminine figures you see, then try telling me that again. I'm not being snarky, I am genuinely asking you do that and see what results you get. I would bet money that the only results that would slip through are brand new post that are seconds old, that haven't been tagged yet. Meanwhile here, with my long exclusionary tag list I mentioned before, each page is mostly still girls.

The reason I even find this to be an issue is exactly *because* e621 doesn't suffer from this problem despite having multiple tags associated with a gender. The only issue being that e621 is almost exclusively furry and sometimes I'm in the mood for human characters.

Like I said, compare searching:

-Female or -Male on e621
Vs.
-1girl -2girls -3girls -straight_shota -yuri, here

Whatever they are doing is working to easily exclude all of one gender without having to micromanage every tag that includes a gender in it because for some reason saying No Girls has no bearing on a post because it's marked as having 2 of them.

That's like me saying "I don't want alcohol" and then you handing me a shot, then 2 shots, and then 3 more shots because I didn't specify that I didn't want 1, 2, or 3 alcoholic drinks.

Do you get where im coming from on this?

I'd say that blacklisting shota, yaoi and every single male tag here still gives me pictures of guys, but that's both the below subpar tagging of a majority of users and as others said, this site is pretty much third world at this point.

Sure, I sometimes do a bit of my part in tagging stuff properly, whenever I've got the time, but that's just one person (or a few people) trying to solve one problem.

What I'm saying with this is, in this place, one's gotta learn to take stuff they don't want to see at times.

@RubyRedRaccoon that wasnt my experience with e621 (probably cause of the type of tag i excluded) anyways there is a major difference with e621 vs here. e621 doesnt have garbage dated coding on a crap hole nearly full server and a hand full of people that edit tags. they have tons of users, mods, admins and janitors with a good staff member force and for the most part stay on top of thing. there rules are also much stricter and simpler than ours. they also have a much more seasoned tag system where you add in one tag other basic or related tags are auto added in. here that system is broken. in fact there's alot of crap broken with this site. the site owner has neglected this place for 2 years now and things are failing.

i hire in mods and janitors when i can find them. but good trust worthy people are hard to come by these days... before me this place only had one mod at one point i crap you not lol.

i even had to put in a tutorial on how to tag cause alot of people here dont even know they can edit tags. i and the others can only do so much.

im sorry this place isn't world class i really am i wish i could fix it but they current state this site is in doesn't allow for it. i will say this there are worse boorus out there than this place regarding tags. but we are one of the best lolicon sites out there.

It would be nice for "male" and "female" to be more common tags, but who the hell is going to go through this enormous archive to tag goddamned everything?

zx29b said:

It would be nice for "male" and "female" to be more common tags, but who the hell is going to go through this enormous archive to tag goddamned everything?

a problem, but maybe we can solve it with implications.
1boy -> male
2boys -> multiple_boys -> male
3boys -> multiple_boys -> male

1girl ->female
2girls -> multiple_girls -> female
3girls -> multiple_girls -> female
and we should do the same with the tags: loli/shota.

a problem, but maybe we can solve it with implications.

That is a pretty damn good idea.

namekianer said:

a problem, but maybe we can solve it with implications.
1boy -> male
2boys -> multiple_boys -> male
3boys -> multiple_boys -> male

1girl ->female
2girls -> multiple_girls -> female
3girls -> multiple_girls -> female
and we should do the same with the tags: loli/shota.

This, literally just this would solve that problem

Apparently a lot of these already exist. Not sure if they were just created because of this thread, or if they already existed. I tried to set up a mass implication request, and got a lot of errors. And for the ones above, they were mostly for them already existing. There are some other rejection reasons. Keep in mind these are all automatic rejections. This was not a mod rejecting these, as I got them immediately upon submission.

Can't create implication 1boy -> male ('1boy' can't make up more than 90% of 'male'); Can't create implication 2boys -> multiple_boys (Implication already exists); Can't create implication 3boys -> multiple_boys (Implication already exists); Can't create implication 4boys -> multiple_boys (Implication already exists); Can't create implication 5boys -> multiple_boys (Implication already exists); Can't create implication 6+boys -> multiple_boys (Implication already exists); Can't create implication shota -> male ('shota' can't make up more than 90% of 'male'); Can't create implication faceless_male -> male ('faceless_male' must have a wiki page); Can't create implication male_penetrating -> male ('male_penetrating' must have a wiki page); Can't create implication older_male -> male ('older_male' must have a wiki page); Can't create implication larger_male -> male ('larger_male' must have a wiki page); Can't create implication younger_male -> male ('younger_male' must have a wiki page); Can't create implication male_pov -> male ('male_pov' must have a wiki page); Can't create implication 1girl -> female ('1girl' can't make up more than 90% of 'female'); Can't create implication 2girls -> multiple_girls (Implication already exists); Can't create implication 3girls -> multiple_girls (Implication already exists); Can't create implication 4girls -> multiple_girls (Implication already exists); Can't create implication 5girls -> multiple_girls (Implication already exists); Can't create implication 6+girls -> multiple_girls (Implication already exists); Can't create implication loli -> female ('loli' can't make up more than 90% of 'female'); Can't create implication younger_female -> female ('younger_female' must have a wiki page); Can't create implication female_penetrated -> female ('female_penetrated' must have a wiki page); Can't create implication light-skinned_female -> female ('light-skinned_female' must have a wiki page); Can't create implication bottomless_female -> female ('bottomless_female' must have a wiki page); Can't create implication smaller_female -> female ('smaller_female' must have a wiki page); Invalid line: create implication female_ejaculation-> female; Can't create implication female_solo -> female ('female_solo' must have a wiki page); Can't create implication older_female -> female ('older_female' must have a wiki page); Can't create implication mother_and_daughter -> female ('mother_and_daughter' must have a wiki page); Can't create implication mother_and_daughter -> multiple_girls ('mother_and_daughter' must have a wiki page); Can't create implication male_penetrating_female -> female ('male_penetrating_female' must have a wiki page); Can't create implication male_penetrating_female -> male ('male_penetrating_female' must have a wiki page); Can't create implication mother_and_son -> female ('mother_and_son' must have a wiki page); Can't create implication mother_and_son -> male ('mother_and_son' must have a wiki page); Can't create implication father_and_daughter -> female ('father_and_daughter' must have a wiki page); Can't create implication father_and_daughter -> male ('father_and_daughter' must have a wiki page)

And here was my requests, in case someone wants to submit just the ones that did not fail, and/or build the needed wiki pages first for the ones that only failed for that lack.

create implication 1boy -> male
create implication 2boys -> male
create implication 2boys -> multiple_boys
create implication 3boys -> male
create implication 3boys -> multiple_boys
create implication 4boys -> male
create implication 4boys -> multiple_boys
create implication 5boys -> male
create implication 5boys -> multiple_boys
create implication 6+boys -> male
create implication 6+boys -> multiple_boys
create implication shota -> male
create implication yaoi -> male
create implication yaoi -> multiple_boys
create implication male_focus -> male
create implication dark-skinned_male -> male
create implication faceless_male -> male
create implication male_penetrating -> male
create implication older_male -> male
create implication larger_male -> male
create implication younger_male -> male
create implication male_pov -> male

create implication 1girl -> female
create implication 2girls -> female
create implication 2girls -> multiple_girls
create implication 3girls -> female
create implication 3girls -> multiple_girls
create implication 4girls -> female
create implication 4girls -> multiple_girls
create implication 5girls -> female
create implication 5girls -> multiple_girls
create implication 6+girls -> female
create implication 6+girls -> multiple_girls
create implication loli -> female
create implication yuri -> female
create implication yuri -> multiple_girls
create implication female_focus -> female
create implication younger_female -> female
create implication female_penetrated -> female
create implication light-skinned_female -> female
create implication bottomless_female -> female
create implication smaller_female -> female
create implication female_ejaculation-> female
create implication futa_with_female -> female
create implication female_only -> female
create implication female_solo -> female
create implication bisexual_(female) -> female
create implication solo_female -> female
create implication older_female -> female
create implication mother_and_daughter -> female
create implication mother_and_daughter -> multiple_girls
create implication sisters -> female
create implication sisters -> multiple_girls

create implication clothed_female_nude_male -> female
create implication clothed_female_nude_male -> male
create implication male_penetrating_female -> female
create implication male_penetrating_female -> male
create implication clothed_male_nude_female -> female
create implication clothed_male_nude_female -> male
create implication mother_and_son -> female
create implication mother_and_son -> male
create implication father_and_daughter -> female
create implication father_and_daughter -> male

looks good Leortha.
maybe some more implications:
bikini -> swimsuit
one-piece_swimsuit -> swimsuit
dildo -> sex_toy
vibrator -> sex_toy
egg_vibrator -> vibrator -> sex_toy
butt_plug -> sex_toy
anal_beads -> sex_toy
bra -> underwear
panties -> underwear
and so on...
you can see, there is much more space for useful implications.

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