REALISTIC AI CONTENT (READ PLEASE)

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ok. let me explain how this ai generated content generally works...

AI programs cant magically make a picture out of thin air. the program requires references to go by on the internet.

From there it looks at thousands of images to create an original image. based on your paragraph.

even though these are AI if they look too real
like this https://booru.allthefallen.moe/posts/430927
they will still be treated like realistic 3d content and be deleted.
this is why i cant stress this enough not to post realistic content, AI or 3d! we don't need to guarder unwanted attention to this site.

so any ai content we deem too realistic. will be deleted, and in some cases expunged. so please keep it fantasy! thank you.

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Good! I don't want to get scared the FBI will break down my door because I scrolled past a picture that looked too real. I don't need to explain to the courts what lolicon is.

I don't intend to argue the rules with this, because I'm definitely in agreement with the decision, but I would like to state that I believe your understanding of how the AI works is incorrect.

It doesn't simply scour the internet in search of material. It is trained on specific datasets, generally from gelbooru or other major boorus. These images sets are generally cropped down to 512x512 and trained for theoretical periods of times.

Furthermore it doesn't simply warp and distort these images together. It uses this trained data in order to manipulate basic static noise into the form of an image that it believes to be the correct and expected output.

There's definitely a lot of misinformation and misbelief in how this sort of thing functions therefore while it's not using illegal content to begin with unless it was specifically trained on that, it's definitely incredibly risky to keep such realistic stuff around.

kittycat2012 said:

I don't intend to argue the rules with this, because I'm definitely in agreement with the decision, but I would like to state that I believe your understanding of how the AI works is incorrect.

It doesn't simply scour the internet in search of material. It is trained on specific datasets, generally from gelbooru or other major boorus. These images sets are generally cropped down to 512x512 and trained for theoretical periods of times.

Furthermore it doesn't simply warp and distort these images together. It uses this trained data in order to manipulate basic static noise into the form of an image that it believes to be the correct and expected output.

There's definitely a lot of misinformation and misbelief in how this sort of thing functions therefore while it's not using illegal content to begin with unless it was specifically trained on that, it's definitely incredibly risky to keep such realistic stuff around.

i just gave "what i thought it was doing" ive never look into exactly how this works. but i generally was on the right track. but never the less if its too realistic it will be remove. i will change my info.

Tornado said:

Why you people just don't ban AI art? In the end this is not Art.

because its going to be uploaded no matter what and trying to figure out whats ai and not would be a pain in the arse so why bother. i personally dont mind as long as its tagged for AI.

Tornado said:

Why you people just don't ban AI art? In the end this is not Art.

That just means people will take steps to obscure what is AI generated. Plus who gives a fuck? We’re not here to spend $10,000 on something to launder money, we’re here to cum. Also you could use AI art overtop a 3DCG base (for example, Koikatsu) to create intentional OC that looks drawn, and you can hardly claim it isn’t creator-made since the AI is just being a filter overtop it. There’s an example of that at post #430230, which is overtop post #424108. Both created by the same person, so like... the AI version can't be less art than the other.

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Tornado said:

Why you people just don't ban AI art? In the end this is not Art.

That is debatable. The topic of "What is art?" is always a tricky one. Is a floor of peanut butter art? A randomly placed urinal? AI-art might not require as much effort as a regular drawing would, but that doesn't mean it cannot be art.

Somehow i feel calling AI art as art is kinda disrespect the real artist that spent hours just to draw a single picture

Izuna_Kazuki said:

Somehow i feel calling AI art as art is kinda disrespect the real artist that spent hours just to draw a single picture

i cant talk for ai. but i know some 3d artists.
and it takes hours for some new realistic render.

sure, the software and computer are doing the most work, but they still has much work to do.
and when i see all the failed ai pics, im sure the ai artist is spending still enough time to make a new pic.

namekianer said:

i cant talk for ai. but i know some 3d artists.
and it takes hours for some new realistic render.

sure, the software and computer are doing the most work, but they still has much work to do.
and when i see all the failed ai pics, im sure the ai artist is spending still enough time to make a new pic.

But i feel like comparing a microwaved frozen pizza with the pizza from pastry house, even in the end they taste almost the same but the process is something that making it special

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Izuna_Kazuki said:

But i feel like comparing a microwaved frozen pizza with the pizza from pastry house, even in the end they taste almost the same but the process is something that making it special

i agree

Izuna_Kazuki said:

But i feel like comparing a microwaved frozen pizza with the pizza from pastry house, even in the end they taste almost the same but the process is something that making it special

correct.
but this is not the same, a bad example.
fact is 3d art costs much time and work. like a real drawing or digital painting.

Tornado said:

Why you people just don't ban AI art? In the end this is not Art.

Before ai art became a thing, i asked the team what they thought. We all agreed that as long as it's not real looking it's okay. All we ask is that one labels it. Or they can go to

Aibooru.online and use that

Also please keep in mind this booru is for us to share good images with one another and act as a data basis for that. Ai shota/ loli was created by a fan of the genre! If they make a good image. Why not use our booru to share it?

Whether we like it or not ai art is the future and it's not going to go away. So best just to deal with it head on.

namekianer said:

correct.
but this is not the same, a bad example.
fact is 3d art costs much time and work. like a real drawing or digital painting.

It takes quite a lot of time to get good output from AI as well. A lot of the low quality AI spam I've seen on pixiv and other such sites where there's 10s or 100s of images per upload could easily have been done in a matter of minutes with high end enough hardware.

Generally speaking the AI output also has issues that are difficult to work around or otherwise require manual redrawing, such as hands or feet. Trying to work around such issues can take many hours where if one has the skill required it would be much more efficient to draw them from scratch.

I would say that "AI Art" falls into a similar category of taking time and work, as well as taking a rather high cost if you're considering power usage. Biggest difference being is that with enough time anyone could get good AI output where as an actual artist, 3D or otherwise, has to practice their skills for a very long time.

To use my own AI upload here for an example, if we also count the time spent training on top of the NAI model and time training the hyper networks and embeddings then that single image took me over two weeks. If we don't count those since they're reusable indefinitely then it took around 2 days time of redrawing and merging outputs feeding it back into the AI trying to get desired results.

kittycat2012 you are right.
like 3d there is a way to make many pics in short time (with low quality, what else).
and there are many ai generated pics, with deformed bodies.

"gut ding will weile haben" or "Good things take time."

ps: you have made a nice ai pic, good job.

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