Misuse of the "parent"/"child" post relationships

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Lately I've been noticing several instances of people misusing the "parent"/"child" post relationship, which according to the site is intended as "a means of linking minor variations of a post". But I've been seeing it used to link completely different pictures. One example is https://booru.allthefallen.moe/posts/408610 . This pic has been made both the 'parent', and the child, of other pics. But those pics are completely different poses, not variations of a single work. (They are listed as having the same artist, even though IMHO, the disparate styles kind of suggest otherwise-- but that's beside the point.)

My guess is that someone meant to make these into a pool, but don't know what the hell they're doing. Do the mods have a way to search for recently crated parent/child posts and root out the ones where that post relationship doesn't apply, and undo them?

traffik said:

Lately I've been noticing several instances of people misusing the "parent"/"child" post relationship, which according to the site is intended as "a means of linking minor variations of a post". But I've been seeing it used to link completely different pictures. One example is https://booru.allthefallen.moe/posts/408610 . This pic has been made both the 'parent', and the child, of other pics. But those pics are completely different poses, not variations of a single work. (They are listed as having the same artist, even though IMHO, the disparate styles kind of suggest otherwise-- but that's beside the point.)

My guess is that someone meant to make these into a pool, but don't know what the hell they're doing. Do the mods have a way to search for recently crated parent/child posts and root out the ones where that post relationship doesn't apply, and undo them?

unfortunately there isnt a way to search that. atleast none that im aware of. we can search for deleted and banned images but not parents or childs linked images

@traffik i wish this site had a manual... ok here how i figured it out just my messing with the search.

put in the search bar

parent:any (brings up only parent images)
child:any (brings up only child images)

DontTouchMyCogs said:

@traffik i wish this site had a manual... ok here how i figured it out just my messing with the search.

put in the search bar

parent:any (brings up only parent images)
child:any (brings up only child images)

Thanks for taking the time to look into it.

Parent/Child linking isn't just for variations of one image. It's also for multiple images in one sequence. For example, if a Pixiv post containing 3 images of one character in different poses is posted here, the first image in the sequence would be the parent of the second 2. See for instance: post #388780. All of those images have the same source, and they were posted (and thus parented) in the same order, making the full set easy to find. Please don't go messing up posts like that, I put effort into that one and I'm not the only one who does the same.

Now one thing I will say is that too many users of this site are not sourcing, parenting, or adequately tagging their pictures, which makes this all a lot harder to deal with. I often clean up these posts after the fact, but with the source field left blank in most of the posts here, that isn't usually possible, and I can't be as thorough as I'd like.

Another problem: People will parent the second image in a sequence to the first, and then the third to the second, fourth to the third, and so on. Now that is really bothersome. When multiple images are related, you parent every child to just the first image, you don't make a giant chain of generations. They should all be siblings under one parent, much easier to find.

Pools are different, they're not (always) for variations or sequences, they're more for images of an untaggable category, like pool #36, or pages of a longer comic, like pool #52. IDK Danbooru (the site that our source code, organizational structure, syntax, tutorials, and most of our rules are lifted directly from) does a better job at explaining this stuff, you can read it there. But yeah, that's how all that works and doesn't work, more or less.

What you describe is exactly what the thread's OP is complaining about. If you look up the official site description of the proper use of the parent child relationship, what you describe is not the proper use of the system. It's misuse.

Leortha said:

What you describe is exactly what the thread's OP is complaining about. If you look up the official site description of the proper use of the parent child relationship, what you describe is not the proper use of the system. It's misuse.

Leortha said:

What you describe is exactly what the thread's OP is complaining about. If you look up the official site description of the proper use of the parent child relationship, what you describe is not the proper use of the system. It's misuse.

Well I'll be damned, you're right. Seems that rule isn't enforced on danbooru or any other site either. I guess people just like it this way.

sandlecrantz said:

Another problem: People will parent the second image in a sequence to the first, and then the third to the second, fourth to the third, and so on. Now that is really bothersome. When multiple images are related, you parent every child to just the first image, you don't make a giant chain of generations. They should all be siblings under one parent, much easier to find.

if it's a variation yeah, if it's a sequence of events then only if they're in the proper upload order since siblings will be presented in upload order, otherwise we need to arrange them via pool or such daisychaining

tyc said:

if it's a variation yeah, if it's a sequence of events then only if they're in the proper upload order since siblings will be presented in upload order, otherwise we need to arrange them via pool or such daisychaining

See in those cases I just parent them normally and let them be out of order. Fewer clicks to find them all, able to see them all at once, to me those both beat order via daisy chain. I like consistency, and daisy chains confuse me.

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