could we encourage deleters to be more specific in their reasons? Like which rule? By number?

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For example this picture of a ten year old loli (Eveline) from Resident Evil got rejected:

https://booru.allthefallen.moe/posts/354957

the cited reason was:
"no interest, poor quality, breaks rules, (its one of these issues) (10 days ago)"

I'm especially confused by "no interest" since that doesn't seem to relate to any rules.
It also seems like a pretty high-quality image...

As for "breaks rules", it seems like that could use further elaboration. Which rule?

This could mean "too old-looking" or "too realistic-looking" or perhaps something else.

The red text cites " It has been reviewed by 1 approver. 1 believe it breaks the rules. " but again, which rule?

This is why I think numbering the bullet-points at https://booru.allthefallen.moe/terms_of_service could be very useful since then you could abbreviate reports/deletions to "breaks rule 1" or "breaks rule 2" or similar, to save from writing everything out.

tyc said:

For example this picture of a ten year old loli (Eveline) from Resident Evil got rejected:

https://booru.allthefallen.moe/posts/354957

the cited reason was:
"no interest, poor quality, breaks rules, (its one of these issues) (10 days ago)"

I'm especially confused by "no interest" since that doesn't seem to relate to any rules.
It also seems like a pretty high-quality image...

As for "breaks rules", it seems like that could use further elaboration. Which rule?

This could mean "too old-looking" or "too realistic-looking" or perhaps something else.

The red text cites " It has been reviewed by 1 approver. 1 believe it breaks the rules. " but again, which rule?

This is why I think numbering the bullet-points at https://booru.allthefallen.moe/terms_of_service could be very useful since then you could abbreviate reports/deletions to "breaks rule 1" or "breaks rule 2" or similar, to save from writing everything out.

I also agree a little transparency on deletions can go a long way. Of course, moderation can depend on a lot of factors, but if we're shown the thought process, there might be less work for mods since we can self-cull some of the more egregious rule breaking images. Just a thought.

it was a universal response. what do you expect there alot of things that you post that just look too old and i dont really want to post a specific reason for every post you post cause it takes too much time to delete them all. i did that when i was clearing out stuff so you can post again. so to clarify it looked too old and thus breaks the rules. but i will go on and approve it after looking at it again and that fact is has alot of favorites. dont expect that out of me much though ok?

"No interest" means exactly that. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to like every post I see. I may think something is off with the picture. I might not like the particular type of fetish. I may think it's drawn poorly. OR ... I might just be having a bad day and the picture just got in a way of it. (Harsh but honest)

But when I vote a "No interest" it's typically that I think the art quality is meh or below that. If I think it's really bad, I vote "poor quality."

When I vote break rules, I typically think this isn't a loli. I'll also tell you that when I see an "Oppai Loli" my brain goes typically goes "Too Old" and thus I think it's rule breaking.

If the post has a shota in it. I don't want the shota to be hidden from view or the main focus to be on the female.

This post for example (which you maynot be able to see because it's been deleted)

https://booru.allthefallen.moe/posts/211337

Has a shota in it because I know the hentai it's from but even so the focus is too much on the girl and I dont count it as Straight Shota. Sorry, I just don't. Hence a broken rule.

I hope that helps.

Sorry if the thought process is hard to hear. I'm sure other mods have their own way of looking at things. So I can't give you a blank explanation of how it all works. We're just doing the best we can

jay19 said:

"No interest" means exactly that. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to like every post I see. I may think something is off with the picture. I might not like the particular type of fetish. I may think it's drawn poorly. OR ... I might just be having a bad day and the picture just got in a way of it. (Harsh but honest)

But when I vote a "No interest" it's typically that I think the art quality is meh or below that. If I think it's really bad, I vote "poor quality."

When I vote break rules, I typically think this isn't a loli. I'll also tell you that when I see an "Oppai Loli" my brain goes typically goes "Too Old" and thus I think it's rule breaking.

If the post has a shota in it. I don't want the shota to be hidden from view or the main focus to be on the female.

This post for example (which you maynot be able to see because it's been deleted)

https://booru.allthefallen.moe/posts/211337

Has a shota in it because I know the hentai it's from but even so the focus is too much on the girl and I dont count it as Straight Shota. Sorry, I just don't. Hence a broken rule.

I hope that helps.

Sorry if the thought process is hard to hear. I'm sure other mods have their own way of looking at things. So I can't give you a blank explanation of how it all works. We're just doing the best we can

that about how i think on it. You hit the nail on the head for me.

DontTouchMyCogs said:

that about how i think on it. You hit the nail on the head for me.

Yep, shota and loli is if you want to get strict. An individual that hasn't reached 13 years old yet. I know teens can also be counted to a degree but that comes down to personal taste. In such instances i think about how they appeared to me in the show. Which is probably not the most objective method. But it's how I think about it in the moment.

jay19 said:

Yep, shota and loli is if you want to get strict. An individual that hasn't reached 13 years old yet. I know teens can also be counted to a degree but that comes down to personal taste. In such instances i think about how they appeared to me in the show. Which is probably not the most objective method. But it's how I think about it in the moment.

ah well go by age roughly. but what i really look for is how young the face looks and breast size (small in size) and sometimes body amatomy. im not super strict on teen but i tend to keep them at 14 or under in appearance.

DontTouchMyCogs said:

ah well go by age roughly. but what i really look for is how young the face looks and breast size (small in size) and sometimes body amatomy. im not super strict on teen but i tend to keep them at 14 or under in appearance.

Yep, well put. What I meant by how they appear to me in the show. Some artist don't draw on model and I try and take that and allow for some variation to that but there's not really a one size fits all to it.

But generally what you said.

jay19 said:

Yep, well put. What I meant by how they appear to me in the show. Some artist don't draw on model and I try and take that and allow for some variation to that but there's not really a one size fits all to it.

But generally what you said.

gotcha.

jay19 said:

"No interest" means exactly that. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to like every post I see. I may think something is off with the picture. I might not like the particular type of fetish. I may think it's drawn poorly. OR ... I might just be having a bad day and the picture just got in a way of it. (Harsh but honest)

But when I vote a "No interest" it's typically that I think the art quality is meh or below that. If I think it's really bad, I vote "poor quality."

When I vote break rules, I typically think this isn't a loli. I'll also tell you that when I see an "Oppai Loli" my brain goes typically goes "Too Old" and thus I think it's rule breaking.

If the post has a shota in it. I don't want the shota to be hidden from view or the main focus to be on the female.

This post for example (which you maynot be able to see because it's been deleted)

https://booru.allthefallen.moe/posts/211337

Has a shota in it because I know the hentai it's from but even so the focus is too much on the girl and I dont count it as Straight Shota. Sorry, I just don't. Hence a broken rule.

I hope that helps.

Sorry if the thought process is hard to hear. I'm sure other mods have their own way of looking at things. So I can't give you a blank explanation of how it all works. We're just doing the best we can

Deleting posts just because some mods/admins didn't like it is a terrible way to run a picture sharing website. No offense, but just because the site owners don't like something doesn't mean it should be deleted. Pictures should only be deleted if they break the rules.

ThatOneGuy0 said:

Deleting posts just because some mods/admins didn't like it is a terrible way to run a picture sharing website. No offense, but just because the site owners don't like something doesn't mean it should be deleted. Pictures should only be deleted if they break the rules.

It is not so much deleting as it is not caring enough to permanently add. The advantage to this approach is that the archive does not get buried under low-effort shit and become barely usable the way that so many other boorus have been. Just adding everything regardles of whether or not it is trash might be practical if everything were tagged properly so that searching and blacklisting would yield reliable results, but the uploaders here have been inconsistent at best with their tagging.

My criteria for "no interest"

  • image not been approved in many days, and for some reason has not been Auto deleted.
  • image has no comments other than trolling
  • image has not been favorited by anybody
  • insufficient tags, no artist, no character, no copyright
  • image is not lewd, suggestive, cute, well-drawn, humorous and/or thought provoking
  • image is part of a mass image dump full of other "no interest" candidates and rule violations
  • my own opinion

As far as images that break the rules... well... read the rules. I remember somebody appealing a rejection saying that the large breasts were the result of some magic potion. Well if there was a magic potion that aged a loli, then she is no longer a loli. Likewise, if a woman took a magic potion that regressed her age to say 10, she is now a loli. If canon says that the subject is 10 years old, but she has huge breasts, pubic hair, and appears to be 5 foot 11, then she is not loli. If the subject focus is obviously not loli, but in the corner theres a tiny image of Bart Simpson saying "ay caramba", then the image is not straight shota.

...my two cents...

junk719junk said:

My criteria for "no interest"

  • image not been approved in many days, and for some reason has not been Auto deleted.
  • image has no comments other than trolling
  • image has not been favorited by anybody
  • insufficient tags, no artist, no character, no copyright
  • image is not lewd, suggestive, cute, well-drawn, humorous and/or thought provoking
  • image is part of a mass image dump full of other "no interest" candidates and rule violations
  • my own opinion

As far as images that break the rules... well... read the rules. I remember somebody appealing a rejection saying that the large breasts were the result of some magic potion. Well if there was a magic potion that aged a loli, then she is no longer a loli. Likewise, if a woman took a magic potion that regressed her age to say 10, she is now a loli. If canon says that the subject is 10 years old, but she has huge breasts, pubic hair, and appears to be 5 foot 11, then she is not loli. If the subject focus is obviously not loli, but in the corner theres a tiny image of Bart Simpson saying "ay caramba", then the image is not straight shota.

...my two cents...

10/10 my friend ^^
i totally agree with this points.

junk719junk said:

My criteria for "no interest"

  • image has no comments other than trolling

eehhh no thanks

A lot of images can have interest w/o having comments, I've come across lots of excellent ones w/o comments which I'm sure many enjoy.

I think there's a silent majority who browse without leaving comments.

  • image has not been favorited by anybody

ehh again no, not everyone uses that function, I've enjoyed hundreds of images but I rarely think to use the favorite system since it would get cluttered

  • insufficient tags, no artist, no character, no copyright

That's just a rushed uploader.

You could have lots of fans of a particular char who scroll through all the images for them but are so focused on the image they don't think to add the tag because they're fapping or something.

I remember somebody appealing a rejection saying that the large breasts were the result of some magic potion.
Well if there was a magic potion that aged a loli, then she is no longer a loli.

Breast inflation which creates an oppai loli who is still loli except for her breasts is very different from something which ages them overall.

If canon says that the subject is 10 years old, but she has huge breasts, pubic hair, and appears to be 5 foot 11, then she is not loli.

Some lolis are from giant species. If adult wolfen are 12 feet tall then their kids might be 5-6 feet, and they would fur everywhere.

I think the key to distinguish an adult woman with breasts from an oppai loli would be to look at other less obvious criteria like bone structure which can be harder to evalute.

You do realize that the criteria is taking in a whole and not in parts. I don't reject images simply because they have one or two my criteria missing. But if an image hasn't been approved in a month, has only the tag tagme, has been favorited by one person who didn't even bother throwing in one single tag, appears to be an older teen but with small breasts but fully clothed and lowres, and I don't like, chances are I will reject it for "no interest".

I'm sure that someone out there is into magical aliens who look like 90 year old men and can transform into can openers, but they are not loli. This site is for loli, shota, cub, and young teens. Quit trying to be a devil's advocate for every rejected image and then cry foul that not enough explaination was given or the approver are angery incels drunk on their own power. If it doesn't look loli, it's not loli.

I personally don't reject alot of images a (minuscule fraction compared to what I approve) but when I do, it's usually in groups because some "rushed uploader" decided to put a bunch of images up with no tags and without reading the rules. If you are guilty of this, SLOW DOWN YOUR POSTS!

Also there's a difference between a "rushed uploader" and a "lazy uploader". I can see someone trying to save images from troubled sites like TLBooru or paheal before it gets deleted, but you can atleast copy paste where you got it from or the tags that they used. Or you can use a tag script. If i wanted to upload 20 images of lucy_loud, I can use a tag script like:

The_loud_house nickeloden lucy_loud artist_request loli tagme

You can paste that in any new image of lucy loud and it would be correct. If they are all standard images of Lucy loud you can even add:

black_hair blunt_bangs goth pale_skin

Then someone will see them and say "oh wow new lucy loud pics. I like this one. Let me help the tags." And they could add:

nude flat_chest nipples ass solo 1girl female bondage long_hair barefoot simple_background mangamaster -tagme -artist_request

What do you know! This image has been successfully tagged!

But really guys, if you're going to be lazy uploader, please please please upload quality and not something that already got rejected out of two other sites and then complain that we also deleted it. I will happily approve and tagged a lost set of 20 destijl images featuring jazmine_dubois and cindy_mcpherson even if they are uploader as tagme only.

And if you are trying to get turds approved, polish them up first. It's hard to reject a borderline image that can go either way when someone took the time to tag it with artist, character and copyright and listed the source.

There are a handful of taggers like me who spend most of there time on this site working on tags and a few others that do it from time to time. Help is always appreciated. If you want to help please read the tagging help guide to learn the basics.

...until next time...

well some times im lazy with my tags when i have 200 images to post with in a short time i usually come back and fix my tags though.

and ive said this site is for loli shota cub etc multiple times tyc has been banned cause of this for a month.

DontTouchMyCogs said:

well some times im lazy with my tags when i have 200 images to post with in a short time i usually come back and fix my tags though.

and ive said this site is for loli shota cub etc multiple times tyc has been banned cause of this for a month.

Sometimes I browse by uploader and tag what's good. Your post are always quality at least so I don't mind tagging them.I understand when the floods break loose, tagging can't be thorough. My only suggestions are that if you could, tag loli, shota, and cub for filter purposes and tagme if it's under 20 tags. Oh and of course common blacklisted tags like scat, futanari, etc.

junk719junk said:

Sometimes I browse by uploader and tag what's good. Your post are always quality at least so I don't mind tagging them.I understand when the floods break loose, tagging can't be thorough. My only suggestions are that if you could, tag loli, shota, and cub for filter purposes and tagme if it's under 20 tags. Oh and of course common blacklisted tags like scat, futanari, etc.

i always try to post quality :P but even some of my post arnt the best lol. i originally had a quota of 2500 images to be posted here. but that has grown to nearly 10k. when i first started i made sure i had atlease 17 to 20 tags and only images that approvers like. but now i do good to get around 10 to 13 tags lol. i try to get the basics and obvious tags some time i forget to add loli as its such a common tag lol.

i think ive got around 50 different artist tags and easy 70 character tags. i still have two major tags to port here which ive gotten 50% percent of each posted with nearly 100% backed up locally one of the tags had 14k post. i also had GR's entire full quality art collection to post. i gotten around 1/3 posted so far its a pain in the arse though. one i have those then i will either find another less liked tag to hit or just scratch the surface of r34 for new stuff.

oh btw other than reverse images serches i do all these serches manually no scripts no assist programs nothing. all on a sucky slow arse internet connection thats 0.5 upload speed lol. sometime i have high speed internet avalible to me but for the most part nope.

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