"antisemitism" being used as justification to block sexual artwork of babies?

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I had uploaded two guro images recently that depicted baby shotas after fellatio given to them by bearded men.

by redpanel: *link removed*

by stonetoss : *link removed*

They were deleted by an unknown mod who cited reasons "antisemitism" and "Antisemitic propaganda"

This does not appear to be justified under the rules as listed. Is there a new rule on the books which hasn't been listed yet?

Firstly, even if you view this as criticism of the Jewish religion (it could easily be intended as a CELEBRATION, who knows?) the Jewish religion is not the Semitic races.

The Semitic languages/races include a wide collection of cultures including Arabic/Aramaic/Hebrew/Maltese and even if something was critical just of the Hebrew people, you would call it "anti-Hebrew" not "anti-Semitic".

Criticism of a religion would not however constitute criticism of people of Hebrew ancestry, since that does not obligate them to continue all the cultural practices of their forefathers.

This would for example be tantamount to calling it "racist" to be critical of the human sacrifices practiced by ancient Aztec priests, as if it implies some kind of bias against their descendants who do not practice human sacrifice.

https://booru.allthefallen.moe/static/terms_of_servic only has a single statement about racism, duplicated under the FORUM and COMMENTS sections: "Don't be an asshole. Don't insult other users, don't be a racist, etc."

Images themselves (and their tags) are not comments/forum and banning images on the basis of "racism" is a very slippery slope that will quell free expression.

For example is this racist? https://booru.allthefallen.moe/posts/298021

How about this? https://booru.allthefallen.moe/posts/304645

We should be able to depict racism in characters, but banning the subject of racism prevents that, and in an age where progressively EVERYTHING is getting called racist and cancelled on that basis, the last thing we need is more censorship and a wedge tool when clearly we are anti-cancel free expression except for shit like 3d which risks CP charges.

The purpose of artwork here is not necessarily to arouse: there's a lot of scat/guro which I think is just posted for shock value, for example. There's some really sad-ending loli mangas out there. I might not fap to it, but if it's interesting or well-drawn I will still upload it because I believe in archiving things. We should consider ourselves historians: while we might spend more time on stuff we like, we also have a moral duty to archive stuff we dislike too, if it's on-topic.

There are plenty of Semitic people (including those of Hebrew ancestry) who do not engage in fellatio with babies. Mohels are only a small portion of rabbis, and rabbis are only a small portion of Jewish men, and Jewish men are only half of Jews.

Although metzitza b'peh has been practiced by rabbinites for centuries, there's a modern variation where suction of foreskin blood is performed via a glass pipette instead of the mouth, for example. It is only orthodox mohels who still practise in the classic fellatio fashion.

We have a moral responsibility not only to defend stuff we fap to, but also social commentary which highlight actual IRL historical child abuses in a tasteful (bad choice of word?) way.

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tyciol said:

I had uploaded two guro images recently that depicted baby shotas after fellatio given to them by bearded men.

by redpanel: *link removed*

by stonetoss : *link removed*

They were deleted by an unknown mod who cited reasons "antisemitism" and "Antisemitic propaganda"

This does not appear to be justified under the rules as listed. Is there a new rule on the books which hasn't been listed yet?

Firstly, even if you view this as criticism of the Jewish religion (it could easily be intended as a CELEBRATION, who knows?) the Jewish religion is not the Semitic races.

The Semitic languages/races include a wide collection of cultures including Arabic/Aramaic/Hebrew/Maltese and even if something was critical just of the Hebrew people, you would call it "anti-Hebrew" not "anti-Semitic".

Criticism of a religion would not however constitute criticism of people of Hebrew ancestry, since that does not obligate them to continue all the cultural practices of their forefathers.

This would for example be tantamount to calling it "racist" to be critical of the human sacrifices practiced by ancient Aztec priests, as if it implies some kind of bias against their descendants who do not practice human sacrifice.

https://booru.allthefallen.moe/static/terms_of_servic only has a single statement about racism, duplicated under the FORUM and COMMENTS sections: "Don't be an asshole. Don't insult other users, don't be a racist, etc."

Images themselves (and their tags) are not comments/forum and banning images on the basis of "racism" is a very slippery slope that will quell free expression.

For example is this racist? https://booru.allthefallen.moe/posts/298021

How about this? https://booru.allthefallen.moe/posts/304645

We should be able to depict racism in characters, but banning the subject of racism prevents that, and in an age where progressively EVERYTHING is getting called racist and cancelled on that basis, the last thing we need is more censorship and a wedge tool when clearly we are anti-cancel free expression except for shit like 3d which risks CP charges.

The purpose of artwork here is not necessarily to arouse: there's a lot of scat/guro which I think is just posted for shock value, for example. There's some really sad-ending loli mangas out there. I might not fap to it, but if it's interesting or well-drawn I will still upload it because I believe in archiving things. We should consider ourselves historians: while we might spend more time on stuff we like, we also have a moral duty to archive stuff we dislike too, if it's on-topic.

There are plenty of Semitic people (including those of Hebrew ancestry) who do not engage in fellatio with babies. Mohels are only a small portion of rabbis, and rabbis are only a small portion of Jewish men, and Jewish men are only half of Jews.

Although metzitza b'peh has been practiced by rabbinites for centuries, there's a modern variation where suction of foreskin blood is performed via a glass pipette instead of the mouth, for example. It is only orthodox mohels who still practise in the classic fellatio fashion.

We have a moral responsibility not only to defend stuff we fap to, but also social commentary which highlight actual IRL historical child abuses in a tasteful (bad choice of word?) way.

i will answer that one short and simply:

they fell back to "moderation queue" and no one had approved them, so "danboorubot" deleted them. that is all. and, even if you start complaining afterwards, i won´t approve them either, just because i simply already know the reactions and comments of most of these members here.. i simply have enough of this pedo-bullshit-commentary. live with it...
and no.. i´m not friendly anymore...

oh.. and 3...2...1...poof... images are gone... not because of racism or similar stuff, it´s because of what i said earlier...

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Dampfnudel said:

i won´t approve them either, just because i simply already know the reactions and comments of most of these members here.. i simply have enough of this pedo-bullshit-commentary. live with it...

I just want to know which of these three situations described what has occurred:

1) you plan to add a new image policy to retroactively support this action

2) you believe there is an existing image policy which already supported this action

3) there are no plans to justify the action with a rule and it is being done by mod fiat

If the third, it would set a precedent "if it gets negative comments and reactions it will be deleted even if it falls within the rules" and I worry where that could lead. Is scat next?

and no.. i´m not friendly anymore...

oh.. and 3...2...1...poof... images are gone... not because of racism or similar stuff, it´s because of what i said earlier...

Wow, a hard delete?

You mean the reference to "pedo-bullshit-commentary"? I'm not really understanding the particulars of this. Does this mean comments from people you are calling pedophiles, or people making comments about pedophilia?

You mean the reference to "pedo-bullshit-commentary"? I'm not really understanding the particulars of this. Does this mean comments from people you are calling pedophiles, or people making comments about pedophilia?

if you would be a real longtime member, you would know what is allowed in the comments and what not.

Dampfnudel said:

if you would be a real longtime member, you would know what is allowed in the comments and what not.

One can be a longtime member but not focus on reading comments, so I don't agree with that :)

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