RULES UPDATED for 3D, Comics, Young teen, & Comments

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thatenemy

The rules, upload conditions and other stuff have been updated. They can be found here and here

Most important changes include that:

  • The rules about 3D content have been clarified: No realistic 3D content is allowed that is modeled to look like real humans, but 3D content in artistic styles such as a manga or western cartoon-like style is fine.
  • (Young) teen content is now allowed, or more specifically, it is now properly mentioned in the rules. Content like this was already approved in the past. We may be a bit more lenient now.
  • Small or one page comics are (officially) now allowed. However, full mangas, doujins or lengthy comics are still not allowed. Those would create a mess, and there are far better websites for those.
  • Rules about tagging have been updated.
  • The ToS page has been properly updated instead of being the same as danbooru's.
  • NO real pictures of kids thats innocent in appearance, Referencing a drawing, or deepfakes. no exceptions!
    This isnt clearly mentioned in the main rules. i have found a few drawing with photos attached to it that had a real person as a reference to the drawing and real photos of kids in an innocent fashion on here. (these are expunged if found) Real photos of kids should not be on here at all. if you find these please flag or report them.

Besides that I'd also like to mention:

  • Flagging is no longer limited to one post per day. If you see a post that you think does not belong here, then flag it. Especially when the content is of the 3D kind we don't allow, or if they are real photos, use the flag function.
  • Comments are not the place to give feedback to moderators or the booru in general, ask for changes, appeal deleted uploads, etc. Don't expect to get a reply there. Too many people seem to think moderators will respond when you post a comment somewhere. We check the comments, but if something requires our attention, either make a forum post or flag the upload.
  • Comments that refer to anything being done to real children, or explaining fantasies involving real children, are not allowed, and will be removed. this will be enforced with temporary bans if we notice intentional, repeated behavior. This is to avoid comments with a rather "creepy" vibe, but mostly to follow along with the rules of the forum this image board is affiliated with, All The Fallen.

Examples of what shouldn't be posted here.

"if only I could visit my local beach and have this kinda fun."
"I like the girlfriends my little sister invites to sleepover."
"My god I need baby pussy right now"
"That's exactly the attitude everyone should have. Babies are excellent fleshlights and the sooner they learn the better."

Some of these may be in context with the image it was posted on, but if we have to guess which one it is, the comment probably shouldn't have been posted in the first place.

If there's any feedback or questions about the rules, leave them here.

if you need to read the main rules heres the link
https://booru.allthefallen.moe/terms_of_service

Updated by DontTouchMyCogs

Lerianis

I hate to sound like an ass but would that include like... Clementine artworks done in 3D, Nastya Korda things done in 3D, etc.?

You should really post examples of what is O.K. and what is not in the rules themselves to clarify, with censorship if needed if someone is trying to 'nail' the website.

I.E. would this image from rule34hentai.net be against the rules: https://rule34hentai.net/post/view/409843.
You need to log-in to the site to see this image to make something clear.

user 2041

mmd is okay, but human looking models made with sfm, cmd, koikatsu, playhome, daz3d are absolutely forbidden...

Lerianis

Dampfnudel said:

mmd is okay, but human looking models made with sfm, cmd, koikatsu, playhome, daz3d are absolutely forbidden...

Except that is the same tool that is used by BigGreen to make his Eru SFM stuff. So this again: Is still a grey area. We need examples of what is forbidden and what is not.

Or is just putting a pair of cat-ears on like... a model of Clementine from The Walking Dead enough to adhere to the rules? It is still very confusing here as someone who is not an artist but posts very occasionally images from other websites.

thatenemy

Lerianis said:

I hate to sound like an ass but would that include like... Clementine artworks done in 3D, Nastya Korda things done in 3D, etc.?

You should really post examples of what is O.K. and what is not in the rules themselves to clarify, with censorship if needed if someone is trying to 'nail' the website.

I.E. would this image from rule34hentai.net be against the rules: https://rule34hentai.net/post/view/409843.
You need to log-in to the site to see this image to make something clear.

Browing the booru for 3D content should give you a good idea. I'll admit it's not that easy to know where to draw the line. We have to abide the laws which is why this limitation exists in the first place. There used to be examples in the rules, but I just didn't really think about adding them this time. I suppose I could give it a shot.

Art produced by the artist Dampfnudel linked to would be deemed "too realistic" (https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=25867890)
3D Art of Clementine that I've seen this far is also too realistic.
The image you linked would also be against the rules.
Art produced by mantis-x is an example of what is allowed. Basically take a look here: https://booru.allthefallen.moe/posts?ms=1&page=1&tags=3D

As for those who know how this particular rule works by now, I have to ask to flag any uploads you think is questionable or you think shouldn't belong on this board. Rules have changed in the past, and the initial uploads when the booru was made also included some 3D content that'd be against the rules today.

user 2041

ilovelolicon said:

Second edit:
https://booru.allthefallen.moe/posts/293574?q=parent%3A293555

first of all: your edits are crap! why? all you did was copy&paste.
you just inserted the dick without even trying to adapt it to the background, style and/or situation.
the girl is blurry because of the steam.. why not making the penis look blurry too? your penis has maaaaaaaany edges..
and the edit with the buttjob looks totally cheap. that´s not even worth menrioning, what you made wrong.

look at my edits from "dop" and learn. i made two small mistakes while editing these images, but only people who know the difference, can see these mistakes.
i don´t know, if my two edits stay for long, but at least you can clearly see what you did wrong...

and for the next time: when editing in a penis, choose one image from the same artist..

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ilovelolicon

Dampfnudel said:

first of all: your edits are crap! why? all you did was copy&paste.
you just inserted the dick without even trying to adapt it to the background, style and/or situation.
the girl is blurry because of the steam.. why not making the penis look blurry too? your penis has maaaaaaaany edges..
and the edit with the buttjob looks totally cheap. that´s not even worth menrioning, what you made wrong.

look at my edits from "dop" and learn. i made two small mistakes while editing these images, but only people who know the difference, can see these mistakes.
i don´t know, if my two edits stay for long, but at least you can clearly see what you did wrong...

and for the next time: when editing in a penis, choose one image from the same artist..

Editing is not that easy and the penis actually was from the same artist.

ilovelolicon

Dampfnudel said:

first of all: your edits are crap! why? all you did was copy&paste.
you just inserted the dick without even trying to adapt it to the background, style and/or situation.
the girl is blurry because of the steam.. why not making the penis look blurry too? your penis has maaaaaaaany edges..
and the edit with the buttjob looks totally cheap. that´s not even worth menrioning, what you made wrong.

look at my edits from "dop" and learn. i made two small mistakes while editing these images, but only people who know the difference, can see these mistakes.
i don´t know, if my two edits stay for long, but at least you can clearly see what you did wrong...

and for the next time: when editing in a penis, choose one image from the same artist..

The penis came from this image.
https://booru.allthefallen.moe/posts/293453?q=Dop

user 2041

ilovelolicon said:

Editing is not that easy and the penis actually was from the same artist.

it´s extremly easy. all you have to do is to understand how your editing tool works (i´m using paintshop since version 5 :D)...
and the other thing is: all you have to do is to learn from other artists. sources are everywhere...

just copy&adapt not copy&paste.

wanna see my first ever edit? i know that it is crap, but it is 17 years old, so i don´t care anymore. since then i´ve learned much about NOT to copy&paste.

https://mega.nz/file/3Ech3SLb#tYlYkvVKBots0aAU5hgEVJObcZNlO9WmF-EAQ6Z22Lk

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thatenemy

ilovelolicon said:

I have made several appeals on images already. But, you guys don't seem to be checking them.

I'm already disappointed you guys deleted both of these images I edited. Other people actually liked them.
https://booru.allthefallen.moe/posts/293578?q=parent%3A293555

I don't want to sound like an ass, but that edit really isn't great. Even the aspect ratio got screwed in one of them.

As for appeals, it seems that no one has looked at those in a while (and I'll bring it up). For now I've gone through every appeal and approved some of them for now.

Korla Pandit

WAIT....WAIT.....do my "eyes" disappoint me...???
Do you mean that Natalia Korda and Sarah Miller cannot be posted here...anywhere ??????

CHRIST ON A KRISPY KREME truck......................what will sophisticated pervs do..??

user 2041

Korla_Pandit said:

WAIT....WAIT.....do my "eyes" disappoint me...???
Do you mean that Natalia Korda and Sarah Miller cannot be posted here...anywhere ??????

if it´s drawn(not traced) yes, if it´s made in 3D then no...

Korla_Pandit said:

CHRIST ON A KRISPY KREME truck......................what will sophisticated pervs do..??

if you know atf, then you should know where to go...

user 2041

thatenemy said:
As for appeals, it seems that no one has looked at those in a while (and I'll bring it up). For now I've gone through every appeal and approved some of them for now.

and? still wondering why i´m really angry sometimes? not against you, but sometimes it seems, that you are the only one who does his job. where are the other mods? most of the time i only read "approver:jay19 , approver:thatenemy" ...

thatenemy

Dampfnudel said:

and? still wondering why i´m really angry sometimes? not against you, but sometimes it seems, that you are the only one who does his job. where are the other mods? most of the time i only read "approver:jay19 , approver:thatenemy" ...

Very few staff members stay unfortunately (and we cannot force them to, of course). Occasionally we search for new ones, and I was actually thinking about doing that somewhat soon.

user 2041

thatenemy said:

Very few staff members stay unfortunately (and we cannot force them to, of course). Occasionally we search for new ones, and I was actually thinking about doing that somewhat soon.

hmm.. how about me for this job? my pros and cons are very well known to you. after three years of learning, it´s not that difficult to know what to do anymore...

diapershota

thatenemy said:

Very few staff members stay unfortunately (and we cannot force them to, of course). Occasionally we search for new ones, and I was actually thinking about doing that somewhat soon.

well, you offered it to my already so i'll take it

thatenemy

diapershota said:

well, you offered it to my already so i'll take it

Right, like that'll ever happen.

ilovelolicon

thatenemy said:

Can you just appeal the uploads instead of posting here (in fact, you already do that, so why post here)? This thread is a discussion about the new rules.

Because sometimes it's like you guys don't even respond to them. I've already made a lot of other appeals that haven't been checked yet.

thatenemy

ilovelolicon said:

Because sometimes it's like you guys don't even respond to them. I've already made a lot of other appeals that haven't been checked yet.

They have all been checked, there simply is no "reject" appeal button as far as I'm aware. If they weren't undeleted after a while then you can safely assume it was rejected.

ArtLiberty20

Are all uploads considered arbitrary by staff members to decide whether they are allowed or not? I’ve uploaded lots of 2d pictures that have been deleted for no explained reason.

thatenemy

ArtLiberty20 said:

Are all uploads considered arbitrary by staff members to decide whether they are allowed or not? I’ve uploaded lots of 2d pictures that have been deleted for no explained reason.

Because most of the stuff you upload is in between "this isn't good enough", and "this is just barely good enough". Not every moderator has the exact same standards to approve something when it comes to quality of the art, and by that I mean whether the artist is skilled or if they're just very amateuristic looking drawings. For example, (in your case, sometimes), taking a screenshot from a movie and editing it is pretty low effort stuff, but not only that, the edits look a lot different from the original artstyle in the movie, have different quality, different line-thickness, etc. Tracing art from a movie is also low-effort. I'm usually a bit more forgiving with this stuff, but other moderators may not be (and I'm not always around), and it is up to their discretion.

You could call it arbitrary, if you want, but we either draw a line, or we just approve every doodle, every poor edit, anything, and turn this image board into a pile of garbage.

tyc

policy-wise I'm wondering if there's any kind of non-realistic loli which is off limits

like does it need a certain amount of lewdity (sex) or can non-sexual cute loli qualify?

I mostly use this as rule 34 repository but sometimes the most lewd thing you have of a char is just suggestive and not porn

DontTouchMyCogs

tyciol said:

policy-wise I'm wondering if there's any kind of non-realistic loli which is off limits

like does it need a certain amount of lewdity (sex) or can non-sexual cute loli qualify?

I mostly use this as rule 34 repository but sometimes the most lewd thing you have of a char is just suggestive and not porn

people that come here generally look up smut but ive seen safe images that have no parent post posted here. personally i dont see an issue with an occasional safe image. but im not sure the staff or community wants it looking like deviantart lol. This site was made for loli shota and toddlercon and there are tons of site that do safe image hosting.

tyc

namekianer said:

there are pages with better quality.
no need to post links, everyone can g**gle them...

actually Google does a lot of censoring these days so we probably shouldn't rely on that

namekianer

tyciol said:

actually Google does a lot of censoring these days so we probably shouldn't rely on that

posting links is maybe against the rules: reason = spam
so better interested people should ask via pm.

and btw: you are breaking the current rules with your no loli/shota uploads....

tyc

nevergiveafuck said:

i need my comments removed!

my other account was fuckyourelephant

can you prove it?

user 2041

tyciol said:

can you prove it?

he can´t but i can:


***.*27.23.*** » User #26761 hornyfuck » about 1 month ago Details | Ban IP | Ban User
***.*27.23.*** » Comment #8213 nevergiveafuck » about 1 month ago Details | Ban IP | Ban User
***.*27.23.*** » User #26737 nevergiveafuck » about 1 month ago Details | Ban IP | Ban User
***.*27.23.*** » Comment #8178 fuckyourelephant » about 1 month ago Details | Ban IP | Ban User
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zx29b

I'll admit it's not that easy to know where to draw the line. We have to abide the laws which is why this limitation exists in the first place.

When the law itself is based on arbitrary and ill-defined criteria, any rules that attempt to conform to that law must themselves also be based upon arbitrary, ill-defined criteria.

Rule34 painter

Why do I see this.

Error
undefined method `is_member' for #<User:0x000055678b4f46e0> Did you mean? is_member?

Details
NoMethodError exception raised
app/policies/post_policy.rb:71:in `can_use_mode_menu?'
app/views/posts/partials/index/_mode_menu.html.erb:1
app/views/posts/index.html.erb:4
app/views/posts/index.html.erb:1
app/controllers/application_controller.rb:42:in `respond_with'
app/controllers/posts_controller.rb:16:in `index'

FeralD

Rule34_painter said:

Why do I see this.

Error
undefined method `is_member' for #<User:0x000055678b4f46e0> Did you mean? is_member?

Details
NoMethodError exception raised
app/policies/post_policy.rb:71:in `can_use_mode_menu?'
app/views/posts/partials/index/_mode_menu.html.erb:1
app/views/posts/index.html.erb:4
app/views/posts/index.html.erb:1
app/controllers/application_controller.rb:42:in `respond_with'
app/controllers/posts_controller.rb:16:in `index'

I thought there was something wrong on my end when I was seeing this. I'm guessing there's some behind the scenes work going on and someone pressed backspace one too many times or some other similar small error.

user 2041

FeralD said:

I thought there was something wrong on my end when I was seeing this. I'm guessing there's some behind the scenes work going on and someone pressed backspace one too many times or some other similar small error.

iratu is fixing some issues. that´s all.

PapA

thatenemy said:

The rules, upload conditions and other stuff have been updated. They can be found here and here

Most important changes include that:

  • The rules about 3D content have been clarified: No realistic 3D content is allowed that is modeled to look like real humans, but 3D content in artistic styles such as a manga or western cartoon-like style is fine.
  • (Young) teen content is now allowed, or more specifically, it is now properly mentioned in the rules. Content like this was already approved in the past. We may be a bit more lenient now.
  • Small or one page comimcs are (officially) now allowed. However, full mangas, doujins or lengthy comics are still not allowed. Those would create a mess, and there are far better websites for those.
  • Rules about tagging have been updated.
  • The ToS page has been properly updated instead of being the same as danbooru's.

Besides that I'd also like to mention:

  • Flagging is no longer limited to one post per day. If you see a post that you think does not belong here, then flag it. Especially when the content is of the 3D kind we don't allow, or if they are real photos, use the flag function.
  • Comments are not the place to give feedback to moderators or the booru in general, ask for changes, appeal deleted uploads, etc. Don't expect to get a reply there. Too many people seem to think moderators will respond when you post a comment somewhere. We check the comments, but if something requires our attention, either make a forum post or flag the upload.

If there's any feedback or questions about the rules, leave them here.

If it’s not irl stuff there’s no reason for it to be deleted though?

zx29b

PapA said:

If it’s not irl stuff there’s no reason for it to be deleted though?

It's because of bullshit British law.

DontTouchMyCogs

zx29b said:

It's because of bullshit British law.

this site isnt run by UK standards. the relistic 3d isnt allowed due to some of them look real in the icon. its done this was due to being a grey area to begin with and that some models are modeled after real people (atleast thats what ive heard)

tyc

ArtLiberty20 said:

Has the rule prohibiting third party edits from screenshots been removed?

are you referring to, from https://booru.allthefallen.moe/terms_of_service

3D content in a manga- or western cartoon-like style is generally accepted,
but realistic 3D content, modded game screenshots (like Skyrim), etc. are not,
unless they fall into the categories listed above.

It seems like there isn't a generic rule against modding screenshots, just modding 3D screenshots which fall outside certain "categories".

The phrasing is a bit vague (where is the "list above" of categories?) because it sounds like they listed exceptions, but in actuality it seems like they listed the thing to find exceptions to, which is a "modeled to look like real humans" (or MTDLRH) definition of "realistic".

If we were to include a list of "exceptions" to "like real humans" my guess it'd be stuff like furries/Hylians/Elves/Dwarves/Orcs/Goblins/Aliens/etc

So you could in theory do 3D lolis from modified game screenshots so long as they were of non-human species, I think? Unless I'm reading it wrong, but that's my general recollection of what I've seen explained in the past.

Regarding MTDLRH applications, I'm guessing that's also in respect to what looks like underage chars. IE it might be fine to draw a realistic-looking adult human male fucking a 3D goblin loli with green skin and pointy ears?

ArtLiberty20

Ok, but just regarding 2D cartoons, there’s no specification that prohibits edited screenshots?

DontTouchMyCogs

ArtLiberty20 said:

Ok, but just regarding 2D cartoons, there’s no specification that prohibits edited screenshots?

i dont think so. i do edits myself i dont see an issue. as long as there good edits and not crappy ms paint edits lol

tyc

DontTouchMyCogs said:

not here they dont.
that first one id never approve.
the secound one isnt ms paint i dont think.

The joke was basically that the first one (that I made) is complete 100% shit, but it's existed prompted BadlyDrawn to make something awesome based on it (which was the entire plan)

So the horrible low-quality shit I made, while lacking no merit as standalone, sort of provides historical context as to what prompted BD's work.

MrLoliLover

The 3d rule needs to be changed and be made more specific cause there is 3d loli pictures that look so realistic that it unless you give it a second glance one could say it was a real child then there is stuff from 3d cartoony loli stuff from video games like The Sims or from Source Filmmaker which doesn't look realistic at all which should be perfectly acceptable

zx29b

The 3d rule needs to be changed and be made more specific cause there is 3d loli pictures that look so realistic that it unless you give it a second glance one could say it was a real child then there is stuff from 3d cartoony loli stuff from video games like The Sims or from Source Filmmaker which doesn't look realistic at all which should be perfectly acceptable

I wish that we could ban the Source Filmmaker crap insead of the stuff that actually looks good.

DontTouchMyCogs

zx29b said:

I wish that we could ban the Source Filmmaker crap insead of the stuff that actually looks good.

i dont keep up with source film maker crap so i wouldnt know.

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